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Assistance? >> sir, the way i would phrase is it is that there was some kind of an issue, yes. >> months before president trump froze the money, the department of defense in consultation with state sent a letter to congress certifying, and you said this in your opening statement, the government of ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption, increasing accountability and sustaining improvements of combat capability enabled by u.s. assistance. so by the time president trump froze the aid, the department of defense had spe...

Defense works with the state department and other agencies to establish anti-corruption benchmarks and determine whether ukraine has efficiently met those bench marks, correct? >> that's correct. that provision pertains to the ukraine security assistance initiative. >> that's a legally specified process. that's not the president in the oval office manifesting general skepticism of foreign aid, is that right? >> it is a congressionally mandated process, yes, sir. >> did that process take place for the dod funding held up in july? >> the process that took place for the certification took place p...

Defense works with the state department and other agencies to establish anticorruption benchmarks and determine whether ukraine has met them. correct? >> that's correct. that provision pertains to ukraine security assistance. >> that is a legally specified process. it's not the president in the oval office manifesting a general skepticism of foreign need, right? that's a process. >> it's a congressionally mandated process. >> to the process take place for the dod funding that was held up in july? >> sir, the process that took place for the certification took place prior to the may certificatio...

Department of defense works with the state department and other agencies to establish anti-corruption benchmarks and determine whether ukraine has sufficiently met those benchmarks, correct? >> that's correct. that provision pertains to the ukraine security assistance initiative. >> that's a legally specified process. that's not the president in the oval office manifesting a general skepticism of foreign aid. right? >> it is a congressionally mandated process, yes, sir. >> did that process take place for the dod funding that was held up in july? >> sir, the process that took place for the cert...