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And the reporter was asking why we can't heard about the four fallen soldiers. we ended up here five days later. the political football continues to be thrown. everybody is politicizing it from president trump and general kelly and the congresswoman. howie: let's revisit the moment when john kelly, white house chief of staff who lost a son in afghanistan came out in the briefing room and said this. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning and broken hearted at what i saw a member of congress doing. he knew he was getting himself into because he enlisted it was where he wanted to ...

Survivors. frecongresswoman wilson cause a controversy when she slammed the president for his supposedly insensitive remarks. something white house chief of staff john kelly, also a gold star parent took personally. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning and broken hearted at what i saw a member of congress doing. a member of congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the united states to a young wife. and in his way tried to express that opinion a brave man, a fallen hero. we were stunned. stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that

>> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning, and brokenhearted at what i saw a member of congress doing. a member of congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the united states to a young wife. and in his way tried to express that opinion. >> all right, let's get into this. joining me now, msnbc contributor and medal of honor recipie recipient, retired u.s. army colonel jack jacobs and wendy hunter, who lost her husband in a suicide attack in afghanistan. thank you both for joining me. very much appreciate it. whitney, i want to start with you. what's your react...

Survivors. frecongresswoman wilson cause a controversy when she slammed the president for his supposedly insensitive remarks. something white house chief of staff john kelly, also a gold star parent took personally. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning and broken hearted at what i saw a member of congress doing. a member of congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the united states to a young wife. and in his way tried to express that opinion a brave man, a fallen hero. we were stunned. stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that empty a ...

Survivors. frecongresswoman wilson cause a controversy when she slammed the president for his supposedly insensitive remarks. something white house chief of staff john kelly, also a gold star parent took personally. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning and broken hearted at what i saw a member of congress doing. a member of congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the united states to a young wife. and in his way tried to express that opinion a brave man, a fallen hero. we were stunned. stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that