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So on the one hand you can say okay, it was a stunt. on the other hand, it was people within the institution of congress disrupting the congressional process, disrupting a bipartisan committee meeting and taking testimony. so to me, can i say that there is a tipping point? no. but what i can say is that i would hesitate before dismissing it as a mere stunt because i think physically having a group of people physically disrupt things in that way who are part of the body itself, that's -- i mean, concerning, i guess is the word i would use. i wouldn't quite yet say alarming, but certainly concer...

Him. well, today they took action. republican members who don't sit on the committees questioning witnesses in the inquiry stormed in and then held a sit-in in the secure room known in the trade as a scif. it's an acronym. in the basement of the capitol where laura cooper, the pentagon official in charge of ukraine, was supposed to be today's testifying witness. republicans held up the deposition for five hours. they ordered pizza, among other things, to call attention to what they say is an unfair impeachment process without transparency. >> behind those doors they intend to overturn the resu...

Televised. i got not an inch of video to show folks to back up what taylor said or how he said it. i just have a piece of paper. what the republicans are falling apart on is that it's in secret. their members come and go as members of these committees. as eugene pointed out, that was how benghazi was carried out. is this just a battle for attention spans in the middle of what's been a successful run of days for the democrats? >> that's exactly what it is. republicans here are making the argument this is a process shrouded in secrecy, the american public doesn't have visibility on it. and as yo...

And said you're not getting taxes and not getting this and that and now it's in courts and working its way through and you're not getting any witnesses so things have changed a bit. i think, since this happened but i wonder whether you think there is a risk if you move quickly on this set of facts to impeachment that things get wrenched into the light. >> i don't think so. nancy pelosi put the strategy out there and said strike while the iron is hot. i think people have a lot of confidence in her ability to navigate this with times. so there is nothing to say these investigations can't continu...

Taxes and not getting this and that and now it's in courts and working its way through and you're not getting any witnesses so things have changed a bit. i think, since this happened but i wonder whether you think there is a risk if you move quickly on this set of facts to impeachment that there are things left there that need to get wrenched into the light that don't get wrenched into the light. >> i don't think so. nancy pelosi put the strategy out there and said strike while the iron is hot. i think people have a lot of confidence in her ability to navigate this with times. so there is noth...