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And showed us how conceivably this could be a foreign border up there in colorado. >> well, i guess it could be. and if you missed the new in new mexico and who knows, if the president actually thinks that's part of mexico. maybe we'll get something more on this from the twitter feed tomorrow. by tomorrow we'll be fake news that he ever said it. and the white house press office, i just can't wait to hear their explanation of what he meant. >> jonathan lemire, eugene robinson, melanie zanona, thank you all so much for taking our questions on another consequential wednesday night. coming up for ...

Really concerned about this. but the one thing that they do agree on right now is that they think the impeachment process is unfair. that's why you've seen it become such a rallying cry. and it's also no surprise that we saw this today after trump just on monday urged republicans to fight for him. this circus, i would say, today was for trump. he was watching. he took notice. he gave them a pat on the back for this. they knew they were not going to get into that secure setting. as eugene mentioned. and these republicans are actually on the committees and have had access to the transcripts and ...

It's an acronym. in the basement of the capitol where laura cooper, the pentagon official in charge of ukraine, was supposed to be today's testifying witness. republicans held up the deposition for five hours. they ordered pizza, among other things, to call attention to what they say is an unfair impeachment process without transparency. >> behind those doors they intend to overturn the results of an american presidential election. we want to know what's going on. >> i think the american people, as i said before, they understand fairness and they instinctively know that what is happening here ...

And that's inconsistent with the precedent, u.s. versus nixon, the supreme court in a unanimous decision required president nixon to cooperate with a grand jury investigation. it's also downright unamerican and inconsistent with constitutional values about accountability and about equal justice under the law. and that's why both the trial judge and the appellate judge that heard the case today expressed incredulity that the president is essentially saying that he is above the law. that's not how we do things in the united states of america. >> i want to play for you a guy that had you still be...

We're in another one now. i would even say the late 1790s are another one where people actually talked about civil war, right, and anarchy. so there have been a number of moments where politics has been hyperpolarized, and i think those are moments naturally when norms begin to be shattered. things begin to be disruptive in some way. in the 1960s, you had tv sort of spreading that around in a different way. now you have social media. in the 1850s, telegraph making things more intense, because all of these new forms of technology meant whatever was going on, all the upset and ferment was spread...