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To get to another part of this transition. i mentioned a singer on the mormon tabernacle choir. i could never throw roses to hitler and certainly never sing for him. she was talking about how she will not go to the inaugural. what happened to civility for whether it's a democrat or a republican being inaugurated? >> well, that's definitely some over the top language, i think. maybe people will have a now found respect for conscientious objectors. the obama administration was not too friendsly to them whether it was little sisters of the poor. maybe president-elect trump and vice president elec...

Because of the fbi but a confluence of events. the obamacare announcement last week about rates going up, the wikileaks and the fbi all serve to bring it home. and i think there are a lot of conscientious objectors who didn't want to vote for donald trump and they were going to vote for hillary clinton and now that support has sort of softened. as a result, you're seeing a tightening of these polls and a crucial time for donald trump when he's trying to get people out to vote. >> what do you see going on out there? >> one of the things that struck me was the gender gap and how in several of th...

Refugees stopped. they don't want them coming into the country. i think it's not an unreasonable position to defend to say until we know who these people are and we are able to properly vet them we have to pause this. >> they think everything is bad whenever we challenge people. we all liked the vietnamese coming here. they were doing well. we don't have a side in syria. it's on our side fighting the other side, going to war with them, doing the best to defend their country. i have said this last night. 4 million refugees, four people have joined our effort to fight the bad guys. why one in a ...

Therefore illegal marriage license. >> there's going to be arguments both sides. there say specific rule in kentucky regarding the fact that she's a conscientious objector in her religion and what she has to do. >> here's her lawyer now. he's going to speak, let's hear what he says, live from grayson, kentucky. >> the chief justice words, john roberts imposed their will, not a legal judgment, not based on the constitution, and not based on the court's precedent, and they overruled the commonwealth of virginia, which you all went to the polls, to pass marriage as the union of a man and a woman ...

We limited marriages to those of the same race and there was a time when the law changed and there were county clerks in the place at the time who had to now issue marriage licenses to people of different races, and the history littered with people who had conscientious objections to that at the time. after all, the law did change. the law was that we couldn't discriminate against those who had opposite race marriages. now it's similar we want opposite sex and same-sex marriages and the conscientious objectors again. in that case rarely were accommodations made from what i can tell looking bac...