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This point, that we had with dave. and, you know, it was even greater with johnny carson when johnny said good night, i think there were like 50 million viewers. when dave said good night, there were like 13 million viewers and less than half. that's no reflection on dave. it's just the way the medium has changed and, of course, the fact that the internet has intervened and plattered us all with all these other new choices. so the whole kind of consensus culture that dave somewhat represented, like he was the last of it, i think. i don't think we're going to have it as much any more. i don't k...

Television. television, you know, splittered up into a million channels and instead of three networks which we had 50 years ago when dave was growing up and i was, you know now we have a woodworking channel and a trout fishing channel and all of that. and i don't think we're going to have the kind of unity we had. and this is really a truism by this point, that we had with dave. and, you know it was even greater with johnny carson when johnny said good night i think there were like 50 million viewers. when dave said good night, there were like 13 million viewers and less than half. that's no r...