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Expertise, but clearly, there's a shift going on. >> it seems to me the further we get from that date, the more, the more the narrative and the consensus view among republicans who were shocked on that day changes about how they conceive of it politically. >> for sure. olivia herself did a great story just today about nancy mace, who's a great example of a freshman member who flipped a blue district who's swinging back and forth, kind of like a human pendulum is what some of her colleagues describe her because it's a matter of political experience as donald trump remains the de facto leader. c...

Own alternate reality about the endless election conspiracies and apparently not exactly alone, john. inside this book peril, there are other quotes. gina haspel saying the president was like a 6-year-old with a tantrum. mike pompeo, he's in a very dark place. bill barr, they just think you're an f'ing a-hole. i'm not sure what that speaks to. >> one day it will be written in stone on a monument somewhere, john. >> exactly. >> it's obviously serious and not funny because you're talking someone who has the nuclear codes. someone in the oval office trying to overturn an election who the people c...

That have their band factions not only the white house but the administration whether this was the best course forward of course there have been in we have been reporting on this fox has been reporting on this since july when there were many people pointing out to the president that kabul could fall quite quickly and for some reason this administration did not see that as that consensus view or as a credible view now they have lived to regret that choice and what we have seen in the last few weeks has been truly awful. chris: carl, i am curious then we heard two different versions of this from...

Mainstream media are reflex ivepartisans is false. they're calls it like they see. it's hard to spin this any other way than this was a debacle. this wasn't anticipated. sounds like no one in the military or -- there were some contrary voices but the consensus view was that this wouldn't happen and it did happen. so that's the media's job to call it as they see it and to compare what administration officials including the president say and what the reality is on the ground. howie: guy, has biden hurt himself in terms of the coverage by insisting as we saw a moment ago this was inevitable, ther...

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