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Thrive. otherwise our country is going to continue to be overregulated, drive the industry away, driving jobs away. we're going to be fundamentally transformed country unless those who know what they're doing and aren't going along to get along with those in power, that does no good. so, yeah, if republicans aren't going to stand strong on our platform, then it does no good to get all enthused about them any more. >> it has to be a vision. i'm not looking for a complicated solution. very simple, don't spend more than you take in. balance the budget. look at north dakota and texas. that's the a...

Thrive. otherwise our country is going to continue to be overregulated, drive the industry away, driving jobs away. we're going to be fundamentally transformed country unless those who know what they're doing and aren't going along to get along with those in power, that does no good. so, yeah, if republicans aren't going to stand strong on our platform, then it does no good to get all enthused about them any more. >> it has to be a vision. i'm not looking for a complicated solution. very simple, don't spend more than you take in. balance the budget. look at north dakota and texas. that's the a...

The 1-800 number for the guy that really needs help today. they chronicled a guy for eight years that needed a psychological evaluation. as it relates to the republican party, i'm kind of impressed, i'm not that impressed i don't feel there's a vision coming out of elected officials in washington on the republican side offering a clear, distinct alternative. what do you make of the battle between establishment and key party? i would look at you as more tea party. >> sure, if you look at wyoming, for example, we are the most conservative state in the nation. >> more than utah? >> more than utah...

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Have some places where the tea party is working hand in glove with the mainstream party or the regular party. other places where there will be competition of some kind and a contest and controversy. i think we have to have room for everybody in that tent called the republican party. and i'm not eager to see that split developing into a movement outside. i think it's very important we make room for both tea party and nontea party. >> i want a vision that they articulate a consensus vision. i like the penny plan, stop spending money. i like control the borders, leave it there. i like energy, loo...