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Policing's some folks like it. some don't. look at the consent decrees, training, de-escalation programs the obama administration was doing, a lot of coordination, they are trying to they can. that leaves localities back to operate on their own. some chiefs like that. a lot say they prefer federal help when they can get it. >> ari melber, thank you, the host of "the beat." his show at 6:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. big tech is making a play to upgrade your health care from apple watches tracking your heartbeat to apps that assess your risk of cancer. our next guest says there's no shortage of h...

Officers and police officers love the fact that he is a blue lives matter guy, not a black guy let matter. it does trickle down. if he's going to be seen as guilty before the action is even taken great >> right. i think that's an excellent example. i would also just point to some of the policies. and i agree that policing is fundamentally a local phenomeno phenomenon. nevertheless there's things that attorney general sessions has done that are also sending a very powerful message to cops. he has tried to free departments from the unnecessary and costly consent decrees that the obama administra...

Divisionist. and the next day he arrives at mississippi's new civil rights museum. and folks might ask, what does the president really feel? which one of those two is really him? >> i think it's both him. i think he's very clear, he has attacked essentially every community of color in our country. he's been very clear with his disrespect of african americans. but it's one thing, the words out of his mouth, i'm frankly far more concerned about the policies that he's put in place since he's been there. our chairman mentioned the dismantling of the civil rights division in the department of justi...

Incremental progress made during the obama administration, but also attacking various justice efforts on a number of different fronts, including the lgbt community, including removing protections for transgender folks at work, including rolling back some of the efforts around voting rights, including sort of becoming much more aggressive, as you mentioned, already prosecutorial efforts in terms of crime and the war on drugs. sort of standing down in terms of consent decrees and oversight for law enforcement across the nation. there are a number of different ways in which sessions' department o...

What we saw is -- and heather mcdonald, the great scholar from the manhattan institute, has done a number of studies on this, great work on this, testified before the civil rights commission showing that because of these protests and the consequences, police withdraw from proactive policing and sometimes the city administrations tell them to, af baltimore, the obama administration had consent decrees which changed police practices. so police withdrew from active policing. that consequence is profound because, despite the fact that we have had decades of decline in the crime rate, right after f...