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And the energy that led to the shelving decision. so this hostility that the attorney general. it's another thing and he's not had that in his record. smooth presentation by an experienced member of the united states senate in a very friendly forum doesn't give my confidence. now there's questions that haven't been asked yet. and those are about police community relations. . whether the consent decrees right now are going to be maintained and whether the vigorous effort to hold police departments around the country act republic going to be maintained by jeff sessions nap question has not been ...

Do that, is what i would say to you, because filing a lawsuit against a police department has ramifications sometimes beyond what a lot of people think and it can impact morale of the offi officers, it can impact the view of citizens to their police department and i think caution is always required in these cases. >> senator sessions -- >> i wouldn't prejudge a specific case. >> i understand that, but showing of a pattern of practice needs to be shown so these are not just a rogue police officer doing something that would be deemed unconstitutional. so are you saying that with regard to negoti...

We double down in terms of our opposition. we have to be very clear about this. this is a perilous moment in american history where this nation is deeply divided by race, where the criminal justice system seems to represent injustice for so many people around the country. and so we are very clear, we have to hold senator sessions accountable for his lack of commitment to using consent decrees where we have police departments in ferguson to baltimore to cleveland where consent decrees are a vehicle through which we hold police departments accountable and we bring communities and police together...

Consent decrees, which allow the justice department to hold law enforcement agencies accountable when they have engaged in predatory plitsing, the same kind of predatory policing we saw in ferguson that the department of justice used to hold that department accountable. he is opposed to those kind of decrees. he has to address the record. >> if he addresses all those, will you support him then? >> based upon the record, we cannot support him. so in other words, we do not take our opposition as a matter of partisan blood sport, personal anonymous. the senator can be a nice person, but not have ...

Affects our lives and the federal bureau prisons and the justice department and everything we have been talking about and concerned with around policing reform. the pattern and practice investigations in baltimore. the investigation that is ongoing in chicago. what we learned from ferguson. all of that falls under the department of justice. this is a nominee who has said in the past that he doesn't believe in consent decrees. he thinks consent decrees, well, the department of justice is a party. i know this because we're co-counsel with them in many of those cases. the department of justice th...