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To the truth? here is what he told me. >> i think he's going to bring in an outside investigator, maybe an ex-doj official or somebody that has had work with collaborative agreements or consent decrees to kind of come in and give him a top to bottom review of his agency, and once he gets that final report, we'll know how to move forward in assisting him and his agency in the reform that is clearly necessary. >> now, chief jeffrey blackwell, who you just saw right there, i asked him what's the pulse of community right now? he said obviously they are upset, but he says that he and his officers h...

Culture and police departments are different. the extent to which communities play a role in their policing is different. however, there are common themes that have developed across the country. as we look at each of the places where these department of justice reports have come out, where there have been consent decrees, there are common themes that can be drawn from them that show that while there are unique problems in every jurisdiction and you need a unique solution for each of the communities that engaged those communities that are subject to policing, that the basics of the need for the...

Policing. just the man to ask about all this. good to see you, cedric. >> good to see you, michaela. >> obviously it's a 105-page consent decree we know consent decrees are being used in new orleans, seattle, l.a. got out from underneath one recently. first of all, you think this is a good thing to happen for cleveland? >> it is a great thing to happen for cleveland in light of their past history because we have to remember this is the second consent decree that they're going into over the last ten years or so. however, i think it's important to note too in light of everything that's going on ...

What we know that is we are expecting it to contain several elements similar to other consent decrees in cities like seattle and albuquerque and that includes one important one, outside independent monitoring of the police department to make sure some of the changes are being made perhaps use of body cameras, we don't know details yet, i'm just getting elements have been in other decrees and improved training for police and also different regulations about when use of force is appropriate appropriate. right now, behind me the justice center also to the mayor's office what they're going to do i...

I think there have been about a dozen or so. tom perez who is now secretary of labor when he was assistant attorney general justice, brought a couple of these. they got great consent decrees with other police departments. there is real good track record of making this workb and showing this is not just limited to one town in missouri. so i think that this is really good progress on obama, good accomplishment on his legacy. ferguson maybe cap it off. >> i think that's a key part of this whole thing. ferguson, is the tip. this happens particularly in small towns. al they're isolated away from th...