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And deborah, quite fed up, told her suspicious daughters not to bother showing up for dinner. >> underneath one of you? >> neither one of us. >> what was that like? >> really hard. >> hard for deborah, too, but she needed her own life. she and john asked a counselor for advice. >> and the counselor suggestion that i have rules for the girls. >> boundaries. >> this therapist said, look, you have a right to be happy. this is your relationship. and jan's position was the therapist is absolutely right. >> so deborah weighed the options, listen to her family or embrace what felt like the best thing...

Are wanting to know about. >> reporter: dr. ford herself would be the key person for trained fbi investigators to interview. her testimony contains several vivid and precise details. for instance, she says she made eye contact during the alleged attack with brett kavanaugh's friend, mark judge, who she says was in the room. and she recalls this, too. >> what is the strongest memory you have? the strongest memory of the incident? something that you cannot forget. >> the laughter. the uproarious laughter between the two. and their having fun at my expense. >> you have never forgotten that laught...

>> indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter, the uproarious laughter between the two and their having fun at my expense. >> you never have forgotten that laughter? you never have forgotten them laughing at you? >> they were laughing with each other. >> and you were the object of the laughter? >> i was, you know, underneath one of them while the two laughed. two friending having a really good time with one another. >> but then it was as if they disappeared her. after christine blasey ford left the room, suddenly it was all about him, about judge brett kavanaugh, his anger, his emotion, his ...

Of the incident, something that you cannot forget? take whatever time you need. >> indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter, the uproarious laughter between the two and their having fun at my expense. >> you never have forgotten that laughter? you never have forgotten them laughing at you? >> they were laughing with each other. >> and you were the object of the laughter? >> i was, you know, underneath one of them while the two laughed. two friends having a really good time with one another. >> but then it was as if they disappeared her. after christine blasey ford left the room, suddenly i...

Investigating president clinton, which led to his impeachment. >> yeah, it was a speech he was very proud of having written himself. i want to go to a moment here where dr. ford testified about what she called the indelible memories of what she says happened to her, and she remained even throughout this testimony, the professional psychological clinician that she is. let's listen to this. >> indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter, the uproarious laughter between the two, and there having fun at my expense. >> you've never forgotten that laughter. you've never forgotten them laughing at y...