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>> you know, back when a newt gingrich candidacy or perry candidacy happened, what happens if that candidate loses in a goldwater style disaster. that would also be terrible. i think they are different. >> and yeah, you talk about individual figures, and it's on the scene of conservatism. this is's the whole voting blocks, and the reagan democrats, and these were the descendants of the great wave of immigration. yes, they would take on a more conservative castive mind. that will happen with the immigrant groups we are seeing today. >> well, i think one of the things interesting about the argum...

>> you know, back when a newt gingrich candidacy or perry candidacy happened, what happens if that candidate loses in a goldwater style disaster. that would also be terrible. i think they are different. >> and yeah, you talk about individual figures, and it's on the scene of conservatism. this is's the whole voting blocks, and the reagan democrats, and these were the descendants of the great wave of immigration. yes, they would take on a more conservative castive mind. that will happen with the immigrant groups we are seeing today. >> well, i think one of the things interesting about the argum...