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More aggressive media campaign from the trump campaign. clinton is saying that those actions are desperate but i will say i think beyond what we've heard from them so far, you're going to see them kind of let donald trump focus on his own words. you saw this in the wake of the tape that came out in the 2005 "access hollywood" tape to get out of the way. one thing i would say is to keep an eye for you on michelle obama's speech later today. it's possible that she may make some news here. we're not sure exactly what subject but considering the t headlines, it's something to keep a close eye on. ...

Totally unaware of christian democracy. it's amazing that they -- it's an amazing bastardization of a faith. i think that's bashing catholics. i don't know how you don't see that as bashing catholics. i think 70 million catholics, 90 million evangelicals would probably agree with me that that's -- >> first of all, evangelicals and catholics are very different creatures. >> the e-mail goes on to say -- >> wait, wait, joe, please stop. >> please, defend it. >> they are faithful catholics themselves. within the church, there are debates -- an outside adviser wrote in and said, hey, this is what t...

It's amazing that they -- it's an amazing bastardization of a faith. i think that's bashing catholics. i don't know how you don't see that as bashing catholics. i think 70 million catholics, 90 million evangelicals would probably agree with me that that's -- >> first of all, evangelicals and catholics are very different creatures. >> the e-mail goes on to say -- >> wait, wait, joe, please stop. >> please, defend it. >> they are faithful catholics themselves. within the church, there are debates -- an outside adviser wrote in and said, hey, this is what the conservative catholics, these particu...

>> there are a lot of catholics, more conservative catholics who don't care for the pope deemphasizing the culture wars, wars on abortion and same-sex marriage. obviously he's not changed his position opposing abortion but they wish he would talk more about it. >> i think his perspective is i'm not changing the rules or doctrin doctrine. they are still there. we emphasized sin. who's excluded? who's outside of the fold? what about talking about love, mercy and compassion? there's a theology that used to say get your act together, get healed, get converted and then come be part of us. this pope...

>> you have taken some flack. >> did the headline bother you? >> no, because only the truth hurts. he never asked me about my position on abortion. everybody who struggles, suffers, they need us to be present with them in their lives. >> does this pope largely get a pass when he does say controversial things? when he talked about women who have a lot of babies? >> i remember early on when he said, catholics don't need to reproduce like rabbits. so for moments of the big families -- i've got five kids. i have friends who have nine, ten kids, very much devout catholics. it was disappointing, it ...