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New population coming in and says we're going to do everything that they don't want. >> right. it's a quaint notion you have, lawrence. the notion of the swing voter and kind of how you moderate rather than go more extreme. i think it's two factors are driving that. one is that this monopoly status of the party for the last 16, 17 years has created a dynamic on the right which we've seen in other places but very pronounced here where the political action is on the primary side. so even greg abbott right now is going to have a more conservative challenger. he's going to get primaried from the r...

And says, we are going to do everything that they don't want. >> right. it's a quaint notion you have. lawrence this notion of, the swing voter in the kind of how you put moderate instead of going more extreme. it's two factors are driving that i think. one is that this monopolies that is of the party for the last 16 17 years, has created a dynamic on the. right we've seen in a lot of other, places very pronounced. here where the action, the political action, is on the primary side. so even greg abbott right, now is going to have a more conservative challenger. he's going to be primaried from ...

Next. then we'll get back to the recriminations and blame. steve bannon took a high profile which is unusual for him because he wants to use this as a spring board. i was talking about how he's trying to recruit a stronger conservative challenger in arizona to run against jeff flake. they don't think kelli ward is strong enough to do that. you have reporting he's trying to turn this into a national crusade. >> absolutely. he's flying out west to colorado to work on recruiting republican candidates, conservative candidates i should say for western states for western races like arizona. and then...

Dana bash is on capitol hill. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, because it hasn't happened in our lifetime. if we don't think ever that the house majority leader was defeated at all. never mind by somebody in his own party. i want to set the scene for you. i am not in the capitol, down the hall behind me is the entrance to the suite that eric cantor has in this capitol, one that he is not going to have very much longer. we are talking to his aides and to people face to face who are incredibly shocked. >> the reason we won this campaign, there is just one reason. that's because doll...

To this sort of thing didn't utter a peek. >> bill: john mccain on the program basically tacking to the right. again, is he sincere or is he in a tough campaign against hayworth and that's why he is doing it? >> i think it's a lot of both. a lot of john mccain's record is quite conservative. he is not wrong to say that. at the same time, he is running against a more conservative challenger. the race is getting tight. mccain is emphasizing as he could be expected to his conservative credentials. this is what we see here. so i think -- i mean i think this is standard politics. mccain is in a tou...