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With their parents? >> i mean, that would be the smart thing to do if they could -- >> a dollar. >> -- strike some kind of a broader immigration deal. that is not in the cards here, nicolle, and part of the reason why, to fini isish pivoting off gene's point, big part of the reason is republicans actually supported this, they would have done it during the two years -- >> that they ran everything. >> -- that they were in control of both -- all chambers and the white house. but they didn't. >> it's like a dating movie, "you're just not that into me." they're not into the wall. >> slow walking it...

Maddow show." have you had time to digest this? >> the ruling the first time we looked at it friday night, it looked kind of bananas, which is -- and i use that phrase because in the two days since i've read a lot of the commentary from a lot of the legal experts and actually a lot of conservative experts have looked at it and said, this ruling is bananas. that's a direct quote from the guy who filed the last lawsuit against the affordable care act. >> right. >> it doesn't make a lot of sense. it basically says we need to obey -- we have to respect the will of congress, what congress said back...

Undesirable without a mandate and the result will be that you can't have insurance. then what are you going to do with the people. republicans have never solved that problem. if you don't have functioning exchanges and don't provide a mechanism for people to get insurance, what's the solution? republicans don't have an answer, and then people say maybe the government should takeover and that's not what the republicans want. when you don't have ideas to put forward as a substitute you end up in a situation where you encourage the very thing you don't want. interesting, most conservative experts...

Mandate as constitutional. i think there is very little argument about that. let's just cite two conservative experts, professor charles freed who was solicitor general under president reagan, and judge silverman of the d.c. circuit, both said there was no constitutional mandate for the claim the individual mandate was constitutional. they make a very good argument. commerce can regulate interstate commerce. there's no doubt the united states is part of interstate commerce, and section 108 says congress can do whatever is proper to implement its regulatory powers, and part of it is the mandate...

Do you agree with 9-9-9? >> i don't agree with it. >> if he puts out there and it's wrong, does that make a difference? >> he's not catering to me. he's katering to a lot of people. they understand the simplicity of it. it's simple, concise and easier to understand. the sales tax part of it is very tough. do i like being brought down to 9%? i love it. will sales tax effect me? not so much. >> would you agree with conservative experts who say this takes the burden completely off the wealthy and puts it squarely on the shoulders of the poor and middle class? >> i think he's going to amend it. i ...