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Innocent. and then from the conservative movement standpoint, fair or not, conservatives believe that this is a long trend that started with robert bourque and then the attacks on clarence thomas and now with kavanaugh they wait until after the hearing and then come forward -- i'm just telling you how conservatives view it. >> but why didn't it happen with neil gorsuch? >> because neil gorsuch doesn't change the court. he was replacing scalia. th this appointment will move the court rightward and i'm not surprised at all that democrats would be interested in keeping the seat. >> all right. tha...

In and see if something happens and that's legitimate. from a conservative movement standpoint, what i would say to everybody else, let rick run, that's his prerogative. but i need to you join me. we will try to appeal to every conservative to come together. if you look at florida and south carolina, it's pretty clear, i am the one conservative candidate with enough momentum and base that i can compete, you know, head to head with romney and have a chance to beat him. we are very proud of the fact that we have, i think as offed today, 156,000 downers. that's a pretty big national base from whi...

Try to hang in to see if something happens. and the conservative movement standpoint what i would say to everybody else is lit lets him run but i need you to join me. we're going to try to appeal for every conservative to come together. it's clear i'm the one candidate who has enough momentum and enough base that i can compete head to head with romney and have a chance to beat him. we're proud of the fact as of today almost 156,000 donors. that is a pretty big national base from which to be able to organize a campaign. >> donald trump saying he'll endorse mitt. have you had conversations with ...