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Years, and now suddenly, we are mimicking russia's policy. these two things go hand in hand and that requires investigation. >> we asked you this last night. i'm going to go there again. why the sudden -- at very best, giving the benefit of the doubt to putin of russia and to putin and russia? >> the question is again? i'm sorry, brian. >> why this sudden benefit of the doubt to these former adversaries? >> i agree with you 100% there. why? when did we suddenly decide that an alliance with vladimir putin, a man who murders his own citizens, who is suspended in doing acts of terrorism that laun...

>> i agree with you 100% there. why? when did we suddenly decide that an alliance with vladimir putin, a man who murders his own citizens, who is suspended in doing acts of terrorism that launched him into the presidency, blowing up apartment complexes in russia, who created -- who had a massive war that killed 100,000 people in chechnya, who slaughters civilians wantonly in syria. when did our values come in alliance with russia? when did we decide that nato, the most successful defense alliance in the world, had to be put on the table to placate russia? these policies of bedrock united state...

Civilians wantonly in syria. when did our values come in alliance with russia? when did we decide that nato, the most successful defense alliance in the world, had to be put on the table to placate russia? these policies of bedrock united states conservative policy. and, you know, this, of course, suddenly turned on its head, and there were people, many of whom are brave, honest patriots, who suddenly now espouse putin's party line. why did that occur? what did it occur? and what were the influences that made it occur? >> we will keep having you on, malcolm in answ malcolm nance. thank you for...

Crazy statement. absolutely nothing to do with, you know, conservative policy also they be on education or tax reform or any one of a number of different issues it's killing the party. >> i think it's wonderful. i think it's wonderful. >> of course you do, governor. >> coming up in a few minutes, wisconsin governor scott walker joins us on set. we'll talk to senior strategist for the obama campaign, david axelrod. >> would it be bad to suggest rendell is connected to the muslim brotherhood somehow? >> i think so. i think we leave it at that. >> former secretary of homeland security tom ridge a...

>> it comes out of the taxpayer's pocket first and foremost at a time when someone in michigan, we see family budget restructuring and businesses restructuring. as a republican committed to smaller government, limited government, we cannot have credibility if we refuse to start with ourselves. >> brian: it would be painful but you're willing to push through. do you have support from other committee members? >> we're seeing support from people in the house republican caucus. i hope we would be able to do this. not only would we get rid of republican's largesse but same to the democrats. and for...