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The conservative revolution. and the leadership of the house has behaved in anything but a conservative manner. certainly we have been betrayed by leadership. >> tell us how you're going to fix things going forward. simply having a new speaker and different leadership altogether change things? because you may have different opinions in leadership now but you don't have different facts. the republicans still control the house. they don't have 60 votes in the senate. they certainly don't control the white house. >> no, i certainly don't think having different leadership makes all the difference ...

Divide. what has happened to the court over the last 30 years, one is that it's grown much more conservative. here to talk about the court's preeminent conservative justice, bruce alan murphy, the author of a great book "scalia, a court of one." we have irin car moan and dahlia lithwick. irin mentioned in the last black a conservative legal revolution. scalia has been the driving force on that. >> he has. he was the forerunner of the conservative revolution, but delayed it for 19 years. he served as a court of one from about 1986 till 2005 by driving the centrist conservatives more toward the ...

Rob lowe weighs in on politics saying, belonging to one party is acceptable, but my days of just ticking the party box are long over. my thing is personal freedoms, freedoms for the individual to love whom they want, to do what they want. in fact, i want the government out of almost everything. it sounds like rob lowe is echoing sentiments of the american people. >> he sure is. america is not interested in team sports. the conservative, liberal. their ideological movements. >> one of the things you tackle is the idea, the story of conservative revolution, the story of conservative value. i'm i...

You can close a lot of loopholes. that's the way i prefer it. you look at the numbers, though, you're not going to get to a trillion dollars in revenue. this bill kristol quote, mika, bill kristol has a great column. i'm going to retweet it right now. but he says, quote, every great cause begins as a movement. this is an eric hofher quote that he applies to the gop. every great cause begins as a muchl movement, becomes a business and eventually degenerates into a racket. and that's exactly what happened. you had the great conservative revolution of 1980. and you had heritage and a lot of other...

To the polls in florida to challenge gingrich on two things. he trying to attack himself as the conservative to romney. and trying to show that gingrich is principled by the attack and others. he will challenge that newt gingrich is conservative. you will see focus on what he has done since 1994 when he read the conservative revolution. and today in a focus on what he did in the time he left congress. not conservative. >> bret: let's talk about what he did in south carolina. the turn-out, 602,000 was up. 150,000 from 2008. to an anger inside the g.o.p. primary voters that said we're not going ...