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They've been saying that all along and it's been the southerners and the tea partyers who have been driving us to this point that we can't seem to otherwise get out of. are they going to go along with this? is boehner going to have to defy them in order to do this? is he going to have to do this with democrats? >> reporter: that's the big question, rachel, and it all depends on what exactly comes out of these negotiations. but when you have a guy like paul ryan, who's referred to here as sort of the tea party conservative whisperer, who the guy is associated with leadership is trusted by the m...

Question, rachel, and it all depends on what exactly comes out of these negotiations. but when you have a guy like paul ryan, who's referred to here as sort of the tea party conservative whisperer, who the guy is associated with leadership is trusted by the most right-leaning members of the house republican or conference, when he is single-handedly in the negotiations with the president, trying to say, hey, guys, let's try to figure out a way forward, that carries a lot of weight and that carries a lot of capital. i think the debt limit being extended, they shouldn't run into any problems with...

The center, they stay silent because of pressure from that block, pressure from the conservative movement and talk radio, and other interest groups on the outside. and so that little group is a little group. they're able to force john boehner's hand and really shape the conversation day in and day out on capitol hill. >> and finally, robert, given just the basic lack of trust that we're describing for john boehner, that sort of really hampers him, are there any republicans on his side who may be able to lean here and have trust. i am thinking specifically of paul ryan? he has been quiet this w...