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To other people. and that's what this fight is about. it's about status. >> but it's also -- it's interesting. it's both genuine -- and i think cliven bundy and i think, know, ken langone genuinely actually feel -- continuities an act. they actually feel put upon. they actually feel persecuted. >> yes. >> they actually feel like the government has them in their crosshairs. but it's also strategically useful. we just saw what happened with bundy. the guy has lost every single court decision that's come down. he has described, one conservative writer, his case as, quote, legless. and what happen...

It's both genuine -- and i think cliven bundy and i think, know, ken langone genuinely actually feel -- continuities an act. they actually feel put upon. they actually feel persecuted. >> yes. >> they actually feel like the government has them in their crosshairs. but it's also strategically useful. we just saw what happened with bundy. the guy has lost every single court decision that's come down. he has described, one conservative writer, his case as, quote, legless. and what happened? he whined enough that he got to walk away scot-free so far. >> well, in fact, it's a metaphor for what's ha...

And that's what this fight is about. it's about status. >> but it's also -- it's interesting. it's both genuine -- and i think cliven bundy and i think, know, ken langone genuinely actually feel -- continuities an act. they actually feel put upon. they actually feel persecuted. >> yes. >> they actually feel like the government has them in their crosshairs. but it's also strategically useful. we just saw what happened with bundy. the guy has lost every single court decision that's come down. he has described, one conservative writer, his case as, quote, legless. and what happened? he whined eno...

>> i told you they'd get it under 8%. >> a great argument. >> you can let america decide how they got it. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data, correct? >> well, absolutely. >> i want to remind you i have warned you this kind of thing is going to happen. the unemployment rate is going to drop. >> the insanity doesn't stop there. one conservative writer for the "washington examiner" said unemployment dropped because a bunch of dems lied about getting jobs. now here is ...

Debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i think most people would agree that the president does more in his sleep than john sununu. karen finney, what was underneath this, referring to the president as lazy and a pizza boy? >> well, this is what we have se...