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A news and interview program, anchored by Erin Burnett. Admitted to lying about and cheating. It doesnt get more clear than that. Is manaforts bet at this Point Go For Pardon from the president . Or is it what, have people think gates is a worse liar . Whats the strategy . I mean, the pardon play is a lot of moves out here. So i think the strategy seems to be to run down gates to say, you know, i was just a patsy. I wasnt that hands on, which was contradicted by his own bookkeeper and i was the victim of gates nefarious activity. The problem is here, first of all, everybodys dirty. This is onl...

I want to go to joan wash along with amy kramer. so, joan, you hear barbara's reporting. trying to get more on the same page. bill schein, former fox news executive, top executive, obviously. >> right. >> sort of a longtime consignificant lear consin -- >> i think it's the president's thinking but it's ratcheted up since bill schein came along. the way i think about it, erin, what bill schein and roger ailes did at fox news, they didn't depict democrats as people we merely disagree with on policy or politics or taxation, they depicted democrats as being the enemy, as being bad people, as being...