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Plug in, in the trump orbit. what does rick gates provide on the collusion question, conspiracy question and you just talked about obstruction. >> yeah, i mean that's the $64,000 question. what's clear is rick gates is an incredibly valuable witness for them. manafort went off the rails but gates probably knows almost everything that manafort knew. they worked very closely together. and gates brings them this other element, he was the bookkeeper for the inaugural committee, a whole separate investigation being conducted by new york prosecutors. that's the reason perhaps there's no sentencing d...

Konstantin kilimnik and possibly deripaska in the inner circle. there's not surprising. the second issue is schafrpgs t exchange the russians were asking for sanctions relief. and i think the $64,000 question to pick up on ken's thread here is less about who the plug-in was at the trump campaign. i don't think that's relevant. the russians made clear what they wanted. they wanted sanctions relief. the question is did trump uphold his end of the bargain in the fact he's resisted sanctions and has the most pro-russian policy we have ever seen from an american president. the conspiracy in some wa...

We will recalibrate and make sure with all future witnesses we're prepared for them to do delay tactics. we expect matt whitaker to premiere tomorrow. >> i think that's an important point to underscore, you did not subpoena him. you're simply prepared to do so if you don't get the evidence and information and testimony you need to answer these important, as you said, questions you made public weeks ago? >> that's correct. and we're not going to subpoena him if he invokes executive privilege. he has a right to invoke privilege. but what we don't want to have happen is what happened last term wh...

From the most heated partisan battles. donald trump attacks the investigation every day. and it seems central to find out what matt whitaker promised him or said to him before he got the job. >> right. it's supposed to be an independent body of the doj, and it hasn't been treated that way essentially by donald trump, who has awe said attacks the department of justice every time he can. matt whitaker as we have been saying has been wholly unqualified to be the ag. there's a question, why are you there? so the speculation is that he's there to be the eyes and ears of donald trump. but the thing ...

Country's full attention back to the mueller investigation and clearly robert mueller is not going to litigate this in the media as roger stone is trying to do. he obviously is very, very serious and these charges should be taken seriously if i were roger stone, i wouldn't be talking to the media about the case. >> no. we saw him with the interview press conference there and making a couple appearances on cable news he also says his indictment stemming from before >> the point has been made over the past few months that in terms of criminal terms and legal terms that's not really the issue. th...