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The tomahawk missiles as an excuse for that. we made sure that most everyone was out of the way. it was a polite attack. it was a pinprick. and so if it was in fact supposed to be a deterring effect to preempt any further use of chemical weapons or the kinds of assaults against civilians that bashar al assad was launching, then i think it was a failure. and so we're left with this conundrum. >> and joan, everything steve just said, i was raising friday night on this program. >> i saw. >> and the next day "the washington post" was absolutely outraged that the question could even be asked. they ...

Involved with nixon, is this allowed, do you think? >> well, that's a good question. i think he could put up a good fight and would certainly test the process. i think ultimately it's -- it's going to be mueller's call as to whether he forces the issue. clearly trump just walks away i think the special counsel can probably push on an expedited basis to try to get these things resolved, and i think he's got the -- the wind is behind his sails with the existing law, and i think that a president doesn't have any right to say that he cannot answer questions if he takes the fifth. >> also joining u...

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Yates' meetings about mr. for instance? how was the decision made to fire mr. flynn on february 13th, 2017? i'm just wondering what you make of what we're just now learning, michael. >> well, it seems that what we are learning is that contrary to earlier reporting mueller's interest in the president and the president's deposition, however that takes place, falls fully within the full scope of his mandate. it does not going to be a limited interview. it is going to be relating to the question of the interference, the counterintelligence investigation and matters that arise out of it including o...

What discussions did you have during the gain about russian sanctions and what did you know about russian hacking and social media and other acts at the campaign? what did you know about communication between roger stone and his associate julian assange or wikileaks? joining me now on the known is joan dean and we have jeff zeleny standing by at the white house. john dean, as you look at these questions being asked, is there something that jumps out at you? >> the very fact that the questions are out there, my first reaction suggesting that it could be an act of obstruction just to have releas...