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Military and law enforcement, my answer would be never in 1000 years. but watching with trump did over the course of this administration, the constant demonization of a lot of different elements of the executive branch, but certainly in particular the fbi and anything the fbi jay might do that might go against him, unfortunately seeing that in motion this was the inevitable result. and it's not something in my opinion that we are gonna be able to turn around quickly at all. it's a sad day for the republican party. it's a sad day for anyone in america who is talking about at the end of the day ...

Your reaction to the developments on the timeline of how long it took? >> it is a beautiful day at charlotte motor speedway. everything about this is horrific but these new revelations, questions no one can answer, the thing that has to be considered is whether two years of constant demonization of police have made them tentative and reticent, it is hard to draw those lines, maybe just an unbelievable blunder. and that case, people coming forward saying congress needs to act, whatever congress does or state legislators do must make sure people are safer. if you have blunders like this by law e...

Almost like las vegas gangster style politics. we are living with the ugly truth, it is hardening our hearts those of us that want to have arguments can't have them because we are in the mode of constant demonization and determination. >> laura: victor, people have said bob dole, of course, he light and stayed at the capitol rotunda. so, this is just republicans, you know, playing some political game here. how would you distinguish bob dole and reid in that regard? >> i think bob dole was considered tough but not mean-spirited and he was mellow but it is ironic of how closely harry reid's life...

Truth, it is hardening our hearts those of us that want to have arguments can't have them because we are in the mode of constant demonization and determination. -- recriminations. >> laura: victor, people have said bob dole, of course, he lied in the state at the capitol rotunda. so, this is just republicans, you know, playing some political game here. how would you distinguish dole and reid in that regard? >> i think dole was considered tough but not mean-spirited and he was mellow but it is ironic of how closely harry reid's life and career married mirror image of joe biden's. they were roug...

This with them ever doing that but it's necessary. >> it's necessary for republican leadership to stand up to mean taylor greene, but so far house minority leader kevin mccarthy hasn't seen fit to do so. >> no. leader mccarthy, leader penalized -- they penalized liz cheney for telling the truth and they refused to discipline margie -- i call her margie q for her lies. as kimberly said, this constant demonization of enemies. we can't look away from that. that is part of why we had to cover that. we had january 6th. it was in some ways a wake-up call about this level of rhetoric and this level o...