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The turkish one, there are lots of young journalists in britain who did join them because they were an employer that paid well, offered a decent gig in a certain format. you were allowed to report freely on any part of the world as long as it wasn't turkey. so you can't necessarily blame journalists forjoining these organisations, but you do end up with a very, very toxic, jittery environment i think. amy, i mean, that takes me back to you and simply to ask, how hard was it to leave when you've been there for so long, when you've got an established set of work and life patterns in the place th...

I think working for any organisation. when you look at organisations like trt world, for example, the turkish one, there are lots of young journalists in britain who did join them because they were an employer that paid well, offered a decent gig in a certain format. you were allowed to report freely on any part of the world as long as it wasn't turkey. so you can't necessarily blame journalists forjoining these organisations, but you do end up with a very, very toxic, jittery environment i think. amy, i mean, that takes me back to you and simply to ask, how hard was it to leave when you've be...

When you've been there for so long, when you've got an established set of work and life patterns in the place that you live and colleagues? how difficult was the upheaval? it is extremely difficult. you know, i had been- there for quite a long time, some of my colleagues for even longer. - yeah, i mean, ithink, - you know, just being under the constant threatl of being kicked out. it makes one wonder- if in the future we do get let back in, is itjustl a matter of time? you know, how much longer they could kick you out? - and then it makes life| planning very difficult. and, of course, as well,...