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They don't bring up bills he doesn't want to sign, they are essentially there particularly mcconnell as a kind of adjunct in some ways, he's certainly turned himself into that. what is your understanding of how the constitution both in theory and practice envisions the role of the senate in this undertake something. >> well, i think they are not exactly jurors. that is they have a broader scope of -- a broader scope of discretion i think than jurors would have. but on the other hand they take an oath to be impartial, which means they should try to do their duty under the constitution. and the ...

Than it is at conviction, just as in a trial you need probable cause for an indictment. you need beyond reasonable truth, beyond a reasonable doubt in a trial. and to get that we need these extra witnesses. the president deserves it and the american people deserve a full trial, and he cannot be exonerated if there isn't a full presentation of the evidence and a full rebuttable. so far there's been no rebuttable and doesn't seem to be a rebuttable.he all there's been is don't let these people testify who actually have knowledge.e' and that says to me you cannot exonerate the president. >> walte...