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My biggest concern is this is a foregone conclusion. all of a sudden, this thing is already done. they will be convicted. i have a real problem with that. i actually want thiso be proven. but let's look at some of the minutia for a second. procedurally and from a evidentiary perspective. but really at the appellate levels, it changes dramatically. what you start doing is stripping the right ace way from those who are facing federal crimes. i love the idea, i love the idea that these guys would be treated like potential criminals, because i don't want them to seen as anything different than tha...

Holding these people there year after year with no trial at all has to be the worst solution at all. >> i'm holding up in front of me the indictment, this 80-page very detailed, specific fact-laiden document, going into every precise act that he took and the other defendants. that's why a foregone conclusion, these are merely charge, not proven yet, but still, there's stuff to back this up. this is, am i right? let's talk politics for a minute. the president was put in the world of the second best or the third best or the fourth best. this isn't what he wanted to do, but you just said the crit...

I guess it works when it's popular, but not so much when it's not. >> i agreed with the president's decision and eric holler's decision to handle this through the traditional process. i do think the public and the world would understand the military tribunal system is bound and government by the constitution by due process and by an appellate review stm. when i said it's a foregone conclusion, it's because the evidence is overwhelming. >> the problem with it is this -- if you take a look at the numbers of cases that have gone through this tribunal system that's shifting and changing, there's v...