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It now. we were trying to do two things, make sure military recruit hearse full and complete access to our students and also protect our own anti-discrimination policy and protect the students whom it is -- whom the policy is supposed to protect which in this case were our gay and lesbian students and we tried do both of those things. >> well, you couldn't do both, as it became clear, as time went on. in fact, there was a protest on campus the next year and you participated in that protest and spoke out saying "i'm very opposed to two government policies that directly violet our policy of nond...

Circumstances, no new problems, to things the framers never dreamed of. and in applying the constitution case-by-case by case to new circumstances, to changes in the world, the constitutional law that we live under does develop over time. >> developing is one thing and men of the provisions, as you noted, they are not specific but they are pretty clear, i think, but not always specific. but you're not empowered to at they're document and change its meaning. you are empowered to apply its meaning faithfully in new circumstances, wouldn't you agree? >> i do agree with that, senator sessions, tha...

In that timeframe, there has been significant governmental progress and security progress in iraq, despite occasional flarups, suicide bombs and the like which everybody believes is the result of some residual al qaeda elements still in iraq but there is one catch there. what they are going to do is they are going to have some u.s. combat forces remain behind but they are going to call them assist and advisory brigades but in case they are needed, in case they are needed to assist the iraqis in combat operations, they will it will be, ready to roll. >> well, and mick, as we watch this live pic...

Confirmation hearing, we want to bring in our superstar panel. andrea mitchell nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, she is with us in washington. and at the pentagon, jim miklaszewski. let's talk about general david petraeus's hearing which starts any minute now. chuck and i were talking to senator ted kaufman, andrea, about this issue of the drawdown in july of 2011 this had is just a classic case where it seems like it is all in the ear of the beholder. nancy pelosi sees july 2011 as a significant drawdown of troops, other in the military say conditions based. i guess the question is w...