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Council gonzalez to deliver to the federalist society. and you said in that speech as a matter of constitutional principle, it is simply inappropriate, we believe, to afford any outside group a quasi official role in the president's nomination process. how do you square those two comments about the role of the american bar association in the nomination process with the role of the federalist society in your nomination process? assuming that mr. mcgahn was speaking accurately when he said that they had been insourced to the white house for this process. >> i can speak to the ada part of that. p...

Congress is the binding law, what is signed by the president. it's what's gone through the senate and the house and that is the law. also as a practical or functional matter, having seen legislative clauses i know how compromises come together within the house and senate, within the senate, the house. there's negotiations late at night over precise words and compromises, inevitably. the constitution is compromised. legislation say compromise. and when we depart from the words that are specified in the text of the statute, we're potentially upsetting the compromise that you all carefully negoti...

Constitutionalism or constitutionalist, those are all referring to the same things, which are the words of the constitution matter. of course, as i said repeatedly, you look at the history, the tradition. federalist 39 -- 37 tells us to look at the liquidation of the meeting by historical practice over time and precedent wirks is woven into article iii. as i said in federalist 78. start with the words, as justice kagan said, we're all originalists now. pay attention to the words of the constitution. >> if i can stipulate for our purposes today as we're having this conversation that originalism...

Referring to the same things which is words of the constitution matter. of course, as i've said repeatedly, you look at historical, the history, the tradition, federalists 39 -- 37 tells us to look at the liquidation of the meaning by historical practice over time and you look at precedent, woven into article three, as i said in federalist 78. start with the words as justice kagan said, we're all originalists now paying some attention to or more than some, paying attention to the words of the constitution. >> if we stipulate for our purposes today as we're having this conversation, originalism...

That case under the precedent, first amendment law and would think about that. the policy question, i think, is really for congress in the first place to determine, assess, study, exactly what kind of disclosure requirements should be put in place. >> i understand the potential hazard there is that the unleashed power of unlimited political dark money then becomes like a ratchet, the obstacle to solving that problem and i hope you can understand that as a matter of political principle. >> i do understand the concerns about money in the political system. when i worked for -- in the time it take...