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Three people who were whistle blowers themselves, join me now. welcome to you all. let me start with you, thomas drake, if i may, you've been exactly where edward snowden has been, worked at the nsa, and you blew whistles why did you do it, and what do you make of the parallels in this case now. >> they're just 12 years ago, very similar. let me be crystal clear, the government cannot handle the truth. i was at the very nation beginning of the secret surveillance state. the government is lying. they actually violated the constitution willfully and deliberately in the greatest of secrecy ostens...

Parallels in this case now. >> they're just 12 years ago, very similar. let me be crystal clear, the government cannot handle the truth. i was at the very nation beginning of the secret surveillance state. the government is lying. they actually violated the constitution willfully and deliberately in the greatest of secrecy ostensibly for the sake of national security. in democracy we cannot have any room for secret laws that are controlled and manipulated and interpreted by the executive. the public has the right to know what the government limits are in terms of its own surveillance. they als...