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Capita they sent more jihadists to iraq to fight against american troops than any other country in the world. megyn: but here's my question because you were the doj under president bush -- >> well, a number of presidents -- megyn: okay. the bush doctrine was to spread democracy, allow democracy to flourish, and that's why a lot of former bush officials came on fox news during the arab spring and actually said, you know what? this is sort of what we wanted, to let democracy flourish. others came on and said, no, no, no, ambassador bolten said repeatedly we don't know what we're getting. sounds ...