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By the senate, they represent 18,000 plus men and women in uniform, and they're -- themselves, agents, who actually have enforced the law for 21 plus years, so i think what they have to say is very valuable, and all of those gentlemen i've worked with personally, and know and understand their viewpoint. and i can say both in law enforcement here in arizona in the past, and also serving in the reserve component specifically for the border mission in yuma and also in california having helped construct portions of the wall that exist currently, barriers do work. and as the colonel mentioned befor...

America. and they represent not just in their one appointment confirmed by the senate, they represent 18,000 plus men and women in uniform, and they're -- themselves, agents, who actually have enforced the law for 21 plus years, so i think what they have to say is very valuable, and all of those gentlemen i've worked with personally, and know and understand their viewpoint. and i can say both in law enforcement here in arizona in the past, and also serving in the reserve component specifically for the border mission in yuma and also in california having helped construct portions of the wall th...