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Sticking its nose into the ideology here? and the answer is a lot, there are a lot of people. there are a lot of people in kentucky who say wait a minute, it may not be perfect but, boy, this is a lot better than what i didn't have before. this is a lot better than a system where i could be thrown out for pre-existing conditions. this is a lot better than when i didn't have some help getting health insurance again. the measure is not -- is it perfect? no, it's not perfect. that's what we have to keep working on. the measure is are we moving in the the right direction and i think both cotton an...

Think both cotton and paul are making an admission, yeah, the affordable care act moves us in the right direction. >> you've written a letter about your concerns about jared kushner in particular and his conflicts. he's part of the massive construction empire. we still have not seen -- disclosures for the office of government ethics, there's rumors about a chinese deal in one of his apartments. what is the concern you have about the level of conflicts happening. bracketing the president for a moment. an individual like kushner. >> i don't want to bracket the president if you'll permit me becau...