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And it doesn't look as though retailers are being sensitive to the fact that it has its roots in a religious festival and celebration, and also, we are a country that is struggling with a cost of living crisis, so how responsible is it for retailers to be pushing this stuff on people and families, and people are having to make the decision between food and fuel? i are having to make the decision between food and fuel?- between food and fuel? i think ou are between food and fuel? i think you are absolutely _ between food and fuel? i think you are absolutely right - between food and fuel? i thin...

>> have you seen the picture of is so-called black slave and infant baby. yeah. there you go. i know how you feel when i was a slave the courts didn't think i was fully human either. i was like no. i'm going to need you to not do tha that. >> when we talk about politics, we're talking about consumer messaging. anti-abortion rights lobby has powerful messaging. then you reinforce that with the pulpit and catholic church. catholics in general are pro-choice, but your priest gets up there and starts pounding away so you have a very powerful messaging machine against abortion. >> thank you.