Stuff, doctor, it's more like -- >> i got an argue by somebody named mark brzezinski. he says the perception is, however, the administration is anti-business and quote a fellow named jeff -- >> oh, great. >> this is anti-business the business community thinks that. and it's a problem. you see rahm talking about it. all of this attacking wall street, fine. doesn't it have a downside when the -- business community says those guys are against us and want to regulate us and tax us. >> look. the country has been through toyota, bp, wall street collapse. is any administration going to be pushing bac...