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And say the russians are great, just can't happen. >> so yesterday, turkey released pastor brunson and trump insists without any kind of deal. he tried to broker a cease-fire in syria and promised to investigate khashoggi's disappearance. do you think this is a pr front or softening? >> i think there's a softening going on. evande erdowan got a close relationship with russia and now i think trying to repair the relationship with the united states. turkey will always take the side of who has momentum and right now, under this president, you know, whether you agree or disagree, i'm going to tell...

Decency, like you don't kill journalists and then the other side of the scale. who are we? connecticut lost people to become the united states. merchants left their stores to die and always made huge sacrifices in favor of this idea there should be liberty and freedom which, if the saudis did this, they have fundamentally violated. so the idea we should weigh commercial or profitability or gain against being a leader for the values that really matter to us is just i think a very bad path to go down. >> so there's been what seems like a contagion in brazen human rights violations over the past ...

At the same time, democrats seem to be latching on to this and saying they're going to campaign on this issue of higher taxes. that's never a good campaign strategy whether in california or massachusetts. >> trish: i would agree with you and with emily. i don't think it's a good campaign message, yet it's one that they tried unsuccessfully, although christy disputes that. >> we'll take it under advisement, trish. >> trish: and there may be a reason why one group won and the other didn't and doesn't that come down to issues of the pocketbook? >> right. here's the deal. you can argue that americ...

>> steve mnuchin today saying they will negotiate waivers on steel and aluminum for canada and mexico and do bilateral deals if they end nafta. we have heard promises of bil t bilateral deals with all of asia before and they have not materialized. those are very hard to negotiate. >> trade wars are not easily won and the people who pay the price are consumers. ron makes an excellent point. secondary to that point is jobs. let's pretend it all worked and they decided to build new steel mills in the united states. steel mills today are modern and automated. they don't have thousands of employees...

Some of them we couldn't get to because the businesses were shut down and they are in access able to all of us so we sent those through the mail. and i mentioned best western i guy that overcharged three or four times and they'll pulled his franchise. we've had an impact talking to major corporations where they've had isolated incidents where they've found it and corrected it. best buy and home depot and others have stepped up to the plate and fixed small problems that we've seen. >> so this is the consumer side of it. that we've been discussing. now i worry about the fundraising size. what co...