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Name deal with the guns that were involved and the firearms in the ammunition and when you think about this, bernie 21 people shot and wounded three police officers shot and five civilians dead. is this guy had to have an awful lot of firepower with him. >> it doesn't take surprisingly it doesn't take that much but my guess a rifle caliber weapon many this case, it also proves a major tactical problem for law enforcement and public safety you ask the question -- of the o'it is is a pio about potential other victims. you know, along the route of this event you know neighbors and friends and emp...

Cup cumbersome a mail truck -- think about that. a mail truck. it is bizarre. >> it does seem bizarre to say the least. sad we're hear aing now from senator ted cruz who put out a statement a couple of minutes ago, heidi his and i are heartbroken and the lifting up prayers to all victims and families, et cetera. how long is it going to take, do you think, before misare able to identify this suspect and at least give us some idea of why this traffic stop happened it in the first place and what wept wrong there? >> very quickly, very, very quickly because what is happening leland is in the backg...