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Him? i don't know if you have heard the term custodian of records the trump organization, one doesn't exist. it's usually the person you would hold accountable for it. so there is that question there. number two, this idea of carelessness on the part of the president is working to his benefit. they found two more documents in a storage locker this week. >> you mean his lawyers? >> but the argument there is well, he just didn't know he was taking these documents. he has a pattern of losing documents. ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client just doesn't have the common sense to have actually...

Up to january 6th. and on january 6th, people pleading with him to do something to convince donald trump to tell his supporters to back away from that riot at the capitol. now, this is all part of the committee's case that they're building for this criminal contempt referral. yes, the committee believes that meadows is in contempt, but it's not ultimately their decision. it will ultimately be a decision of a jury of meadows' peers. his situation is different than steve bannon or jeffrey clark, former d.o.j. official. he was chief of staff. he worked in the executive branch. there may be things...