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You have done the work tabulating where they are, are we seeing the fees go up quicker in states where we have seen deeper cuts in judicial systems? >> there's not a clear relationship in the data and trend, but there is a clear trend upward in terms of the activity. they're becoming much more active as they feel the pressure whether it's real or imagined. there's more activity from the court systems trying to sell the funds. >> there was concern about the overall legality of this. is this constitutional? >> it shouldn't be constitutional to put somebody in a cage for not paying a fee they can...

To court saying that the republicans will push a contempt case against him over his decision to withhold documents in the "fast and furious" gun trafficking investigation. >> the american people have a right to know what happened here. brian terry's family has a right to know what happened hire. and the fact is that the only facts that we've received about this entire "fast and furious" operation came from whistle-blowers and others associated with it. we got no information that helped in our investigation from the justice department at any point in this investigation. the american people dese...

This can be totally avoided and stop if they just provide the documents. >> with that highly unlikely it appears that this is all heading to court. john? >> so that is congressman chaffetz's view. what is the white house saying? >> they are standing by eric holder. ia carney says eric holder will continue his excellent work as attorney general and calls all of this pure politics. on the criminal contempt aspect, carney told reporters today, "it's established principle dating back to the administration of president ronald reagan that the justice department does not pursue prosecution. in a cont...

>> in a letter to boehner, he said a crime was not committe committed. white house secretary jay carney explained that it's established principle dating back to the administration of president ronald reagan that the justice department does not pursue prosecution in a contempt case when the president alerted executive privilege. here is house oversight chairman darrell issa on the way forward. >> the house authorized me to hire staff, legal staff two can pursue civilly in the courts to try to get a federal judge to order the discovery. >> a civil suit is the way that the republicans will seek t...

Supposed to walk away and not pursue this? that is just not going to happen. >> the house republicans did a civil contempt resolution so looks like it this will be solved by a lawsuit going to court and trying to force the department of justice to provide the documents. >> a couple of legal pros whether weigh in on that in just a moment. what is the white house saying? >> they are standing up for the attorney general saying he is doing a great job and jay carney said "it is an established principle dating back to the administration of president ronald reagan that the justice department does no...