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Students. contempt chous of them. >> during this time, kaczynski was growing increasingly disillusioned. >> this was somebody who was deeply disturbed. and if you can't deal with society as it is or people as they are, how are you going to deal with the society that's changing? >> it was when he was at ann arbor that he started fantasizing about killing people who were tools of the industrial society. but by the time he went to berkeley, he was already determining that he was going to work for a couple of years, save up money, then move to the woods and drop out of society altogether. >> in 19...

Spanked by the federal government even though they're openly contempt chous of laws that are designed to protect innocent lives and the jobs of american workers, but if you try to enact laws expect a lawsuit. you have to wonder with all the lawsuits and i don't know if anyone's done a tally, you might want to, i don't think any other administration has filed more federal lawsuits against municipalities and states than the current administration. it seems as though the administration's at war with local government. don't you get that same feeling? >> they're the ones dealing with the fire. and ...