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You don't call, you don't write, come on, don. >> well, you're back now. >> here we are. >> since that i'll start with john. john -- [ laughter ] >> it's official steve bannon is defying the select committee subpoena. what are you hearing how they will respond? >> i think they will get tough, don. the indications we have are that the select committee is going to not waste time and go quickly to criminal contempt citations and count on the justice department to prosecute them, enforce them and i think what we're seeing from the biden administration both in this decision by not to invoke executi...

Subpoena. what are you hearing how they will respond? >> i think they will get tough, don. the indications we have are that the select committee is going to not waste time and go quickly to criminal contempt citations and count on the justice department to prosecute them, enforce them and i think what we're seeing from the biden administration both in this decision by not to invoke executive privilege and also the signals they sent to the committee that they are likely to move ahead with enforcing contempt citations. the justice department and biden administration may not want to move ahead in...

Didn't follow the state passed laws that govern the election for president. >> you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. >> last time, i promise, do you think the election was stolen or not? >> it's not just -- it's states that did not follow the laws set, which the constitution says they're supposed to follow. >> that was a hot seat right there. what liz cheney firing back on twitter writing, republicans have a duty to tell the american people that this is not true. we will go beyond the headlines now on the january...

This is going to be the case if the white house continues to stonewall. i asked a member of the judiciary committee this very question. listen to his answer, and i want to get your response. sounds like democrats are still trying to develop a strategy. >> well, i think we are, and i think the judiciary had the same problem. we were stonewalled. people refused to comply with subpoenas. we've gone to court on contempt citations. but the courts are still ruling and/or they've been appealed. but i think all of this does show obstruction of congress and that can be a charge in itself. >> so they ca...

The survival of american democracy." if he succeeds in getting republicans to do his bidding, all of these contempt citations will have to be done in court. it could cease to be a democracy. this is one of those moments where everything that we care about is at stake. we know that the american people were you have had exhausted. the robert mueller investigation, those that read those 400 plus pages, it became white those to the american people.