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Fiona hill was willing to come and answer questions voluntarily. then she was served a subpoena by adam schiff. why do that? it changes the way they can question her or what they can ask? >> i think it gives them additional powers to use the subpoena when you don't need to use a subpoena. the witness says i'll show up whenever you tell me to show up, then using a subpoena is a power play. to put you in fear of oh my word, if i don't do this, contempt powers and the like. so i think it's again the unnecessary use and the unwise use of power. it seems to me that people should be crying out to sa...

But i'm certainry concerned about running out the clock. i'd like to see us use inherent contempt. it was brought up on the call. it wasn't pursued. there's not been a desire by the leadership to pursue inherntent contempt. there are cases that said it is within our rules, within the constitution for oversight to be able to have contempt powers and subpoena people and inherent contempt is necessary, we need to use it and i think we need to use it. >> congressman, i was reading your twitter feed and you characterized this whole situation gaetding greasier and greasier. i like the graze. is ther...

With a request of congress. if she were to then be in contempt of court, the court could use its contempt powers to jail her. >> barbara, i have to say, i was a white house intern when i was a very young man a long, long time ago, and they drilled into us the hatch act, how serious it was. you know, among us, we have never heard of it, but we sure knew about it when we were there. >> the same is true of any federal employee. i worked in an attorney's office in detroit for 19 years, and we had training on the hatch act and reminders all the time. we all knew what we could and could not do. the ...

Court order to get her to comply with a request of congress. if she were to then be in contempt of court, the court could use its contempt powers to jail her. >> barbara, i have to say, i was a white house intern when i was a very young man a long, long time ago, and they drilled into us the hatch act, how serious it was. you know, among us, we have never heard of it, but we sure knew about it when we were there. >> the same is true of any federal employee. i worked in an attorney's office in detroit for 19 years, and we had training on the hatch act and reminders all the time. we all knew wha...

Come in and bring a case. in this instance because they're aligned with the executive branch and they've given an office of legal counsel opinion consistent to what kellyanne conway is doing, i don't think we can rely on them. i think what they would have to do is file a lawsuit and get a court order to get her to comply with a request of congress. if she were to then be in contempt of court, the court could use its contempt powers to jail her. >> barbara, i have to say, i was a white house intern when i was a very young man a long, long time ago, and they drilled into us the hatch act, how se...