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federal judge in louisiana. here's his exchange with republican congressman mike johnson on wednesday. >> the fbi made the social media platforms pull that information off the internet if it came from conservative sources. they did this under the guise that it was disinformation. can you, can you define what disinformation is? >> our focus is on malign, foreign disinformation; that is, foreign hostile actors who engage in -- >> mr. wray -- >> -- to use our social media platforms -- >> i have to stop you for time. that's not accurate. you need to read this court opinion, because you'r...

If smart? >> i don't know, it depends on the outcome. is cutting his salary going to get you the cooperation and oversight that you want? i doubt it. it might make them feel good. i think there's still a lot of -- primarily by getting people on the record and using their contempt powers to do it. paul: all right, thank you, all. when we come back, as president biden wraps up his trip to europe, we'll talk to alaska senator and armed services committee member dan sullivan about what was accomplished at the nato summit and ukraine'st uncertain pathim to joining the alliance. rs, neuriva plus is ...

Little bit and expand on what sahil was just saying there. legally speaking, once the vote takes place and assuming it's going to pass as it's expected to, what happens next? what is the u.s. attorney's office in d.c. going to consider? and from your legal perspective, from your expertise, is this the most efficient way to do it? because as you probably saw in my last hour, i was talking to congressman ted lieu who said, no, the congress has inherent contempt powers. they should exercise it because this could drag out and be delayed. >> so, first of all, i mean, i want to say, just even before...

Contempt powers. in 1934, the senate senate the sergeant at arms down to get an assistant secretary of commerce and put him in jail, in the willard for ten days, until he agreed to cooperate. that's still good law. there's supreme court rulings back as early as 1821 that the house could do this. i think they should and i think they should do it next week, if you will. >> maybe not the willard. maybe a few steps lower. i won't mention any names. >> not the trump hotel either. >> i was going to say there's a hotel in washington that could use some occupancy these days. i want to ask you about th...

People in and perhaps finding them until they're willing to cooperate. >> is that a good strategy? >> yeah, look, i adprae with my colleague and good friend mr. raskin. i think he is right. it's a sort of a binary choice tore the congress. it's either pursuing the criminal contempt referral that i referenced and that jamie referenced or it's using the inherent contempt powers of the congress, which are implied under the constitution. there are several of us, including jamie, myself, ted liu, val demings on the house judiciary area committee who have proposed doing precisely that. tiffany, you ...