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Their hands on the evidence and more information. and that starts with exactly what they're starting to look at, at the justice department and at least what jerry nadler and house democrats won with regard to the justice department and that is negotiations overseeing the document, the underlying documents. >> do you think, david, that chairman nadler's contempt threats are working? >> i think that they at least got them a half step toward what they are doing today, as dana and jeffrey are discussing, right? getting additional information from the justice department which will help them determi...

We are back with our panel. all right, jason, thoughts on all this? >> this is impeachment-like, nancy pelosi's dilemma is most americans oppose impeachment, most of her caucus, it's not going anywhere since republicans control the senate. what she's looking for are ways to let her progressives bent and so these hearings that are being held and the contempt threats and so forth are just ways for her members to be able to let off little steam about this would actually pulling trigger because it's unpopular. >> i don't think it's right if somebody is shouting lock her up, i don't think it's righ...

Him in prison. we are back with our panel. all right, jason, thoughts on all this? >> this is impeachment-like, nancy pelosi's dilemma is most americans oppose impeachment, most of her caucus, it's not going anywhere since republicans control the senate. what she's looking for are ways to let her progressives bent and so these hearings that are being held and the contempt threats and so forth are just ways for her members to be able to let off little steam about this would actually pulling trigger because it's unpopular. >> i don't think it's right if somebody is shouting lock her up, i don't ...

Right? what is the first thing the detectives do? they go and interview the victims and then they interview the witnesses. they don't start with interviewing people who are considered to be under suspicion for having committed the crime. and so in this case they have done it just exactly back wards, and in fact in my conversations with them they were asking me question questions that really reflected the defenses that the irs employees have raised. and so i thought that was very curious. now whether or not that works out in the end to be positive, i don't know. but i think lois lerner is worri...

Right? what is the first thing the detectives do? they go and interview the victims and then they interview the witnesses. they don't start with interviewing people who are considered to be under suspicion for having committed the crime. and so in this case they have done it just exactly back wards, and in fact in my conversations with them they were asking me question questions that really reflected the defenses that the irs employees have raised. and so i thought that was very curious. now whether or not that works out in the end to be positive, i don't know. but i think lois lerner is worri...