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Contempt votes if in the end you're just stymied by the department of justice? >> well, i think that's unfortunate. i think that -- my hope is that the department of justice will act objectively in this matter. but what we don't want is for the department of justice to be an extended arm of president trump's tyranny. >> but when you have a contempt vote, the expectation is that this is what the doj is going to do. that's the knowledge that democrats are operating under, that's the practical knowledge. what's the point of having contempt votes if you just run into this wall? >> well, i think it...

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Communications. so right now this is about looking tough on the administration. paul: particularly you wrote a column this week about one of the contempt votes, which is concerning the census against comcommerce isn'tcommerce secre. was this an attempt to influence justices to maybe delay the ruling? >> absolutely it was. again, a misuse of contempt. look, the oversight committee had been working very well with the department of justice, had turned over 1700 pages of documents that they made available. the talks are ongoing. elijah cummings holds bill barr and wilbur ross in contempt. he wants...

Communications. so right now this is about looking tough on the administration. paul: particularly you wrote a column this week about one of the contempt votes, which is concerning the census against comcommerce isn'tcommerce secre. was this an attempt to influence justices to maybe delay the ruling? >> absolutely it was. again, a misuse of contempt. look, the oversight committee had been working very well with the department of justice, had turned over 1700 pages of documents that they made available. the talks are ongoing. elijah cummings holds bill barr and wilbur ross in contempt. he wants...

Open, he is telling us he would take information from a foreign government which we could suspect tried to influence us. and if the information is passed from one country to the other to sanitize its acceptance, say norway, as he chose, instead when past presidential candidates and others have been very careful not to take such information and not to rely on it and not to move. i think that that's the real problem here. it is astonishing to me that we hear these kinds of things from the white house and we can't even get ourselves to an impeachment resolution to investigate it formally. >> you ...