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campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that wer...

his campaign knows he lost. his administration knows he lost. and nevertheless, he tells the country, i won. >> we have much more evidence to show the american people on this point than we can reasonably show in one hearing. and today, we will begin. >> tonight, new testimony from the very top of trump's own campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president...

of election fraud were just lies. >> what they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that were notably false? >> not only w...

Certain spell over the judgment and values of many people who i've known over the years, who i always believed and still believe are people of great principle. i think that there is something to the clinging to power that is sort of underlying all of this that just seems wrong. >> the other part of my question is that what you testified today makes it clear that a successful recount -- donald trump lost by thousands in multiple states. he was looking for a recount. he was looking for a nullification. what are the ramifications of that? >> they notification is obviously the antithesis of a demo...

Is sort of underlying all of this that just seems wrong. >> the other part of my question is that what you testified today makes it clear that a successful recount -- donald trump lost by thousands in multiple states. he wasnt looking for a recount. he was looking for a nullification. what are the ramifications of that? >> the nullification is obviously the antithesis of a democracy and peoples right to vote being the decision-maker on who gets to sit in office. i think he was looking for the recounts, he is using the contest procedures to make his, what turned out to be his evidence-free alle...