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>> though, what the jury thought, no one could say. then there was inevitably a conversation about whether or not dave would testify. >> i told them i wanted to testify. >> an idea dave's attorney did not like one bit. >> dave is a combative individual, he is prideful, he is offended easily. >> he thinks he is smart and hates for anyone to think he is not smart. he would be perfect fodder for a trained prosecutor. >> and so dave held his tongue in court. he saved his story for us. so you don't think they had any useful evidence against you at all? >> can anybody name anything? >> coming up -- ...