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Have to go through finding more invasive procedures to perhaps abort an unwanted pregnancy if they had access to reproductive contraceptive contraceptive methods in schools. >> weigh in on our facebook page. penny and nel, thanks for debating this topic. coming up here on the show they sacrificed for our freedom. veterans lose that liberty from battlefield injuries. we hear the wounded warrior up next. a shark capsizes this man's kayak. a bull shark pulls him in the water. that's next hour. ♪

Contraceptive methods. this is not possible. i have not spoken much about these things and was reprimanded for that. but when we speak about these issues we have to talk about them in a context. the teaching of the church is clear and i am a son of the church but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time. and the interpretation of this has been in some quarters he's changing church policy on these things. >> which really what he's doing is the word cop text that you used there. he's saying, you know, of course we need to have moral authority and of course we need to help peop...

But one evangelical said this -- quote, the man needs to read his bible. i'm pretty sure he's got a copy already. well, what about, what are they really angry about? >> reporter: today it's the pope's words making headlines. we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. >> ding, ding, ding. we have the answer, folks. the gop's further right than the pope on social issues. >> i guess could you say boy, your ideology is ridge id and outdated when the head of the organization that just got around to apoll jieding to galileo shows more flex...

Issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. this is not possible. he said we need to find a new balance. otherwise the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards. interesting. talked to cardinal dolan. >> all of a sudden everybody is interesting, i'm getting invited to the "today" show, i'm asked about pope francis and the teachings of the church. this is an amazing opportunity due to him. >> it's very interesting also he compared himself to st. matthew. can you expand on that? >> i think what's so interesting about him, it really com...

Minutes, 25 minutes or so. thanks, kiki, chip, good to see you both. talk about surprises, pope francis just keeps delivering bombshells. the latest in a blunt interview with the jesuit magazine "america." the pope called for big changes in church priorities saying, quote, we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. this is not possible. he added, we have to find a new balance. otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards. new york cardinal timothy dolan is president of the u.s. conference o...