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Republican party to president trump, why have so few people left the party the way you and now justin amash has? >> i am so glad you asked this. justin and i come have very different ideological standpoints. he thinks the party is not rigid enough and he's a libertarian, down the line constitutionalist and i represent the purple state thinking that it is too ridge id at times, but on the fundamental issue on how the party has dealt with trump. they have not just tolerated him, they have celebrated him. throughout history we get to judge the decision making of our political leaders at times of ...

But one evangelical said this -- quote, the man needs to read his bible. i'm pretty sure he's got a copy already. well, what about, what are they really angry about? >> reporter: today it's the pope's words making headlines. we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. >> ding, ding, ding. we have the answer, folks. the gop's further right than the pope on social issues. >> i guess could you say boy, your ideology is ridge id and outdated when the head of the organization that just got around to apoll jieding to galileo shows more flex...

>> but aren't they intimidated there is no possibility that 24 by the loud talkers, the radio talkers. those that have been able to use is goi this is going to recur. i would make one suggestion. the right wing media from blog if the tea party want to get to fox that have put them in a state of intimidation? i'm talking about the moderate reelected, let's get out of grown ups in the republican party? >> yeah. and it's sad. afghanistan this year. if they're serious about cutting it's really difficult for them to have any sort of control. back wasteful spending, and we know that there are these ...